tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post713333323767135031..comments2024-03-10T21:49:37.789-04:00Comments on Adventures in Mama-Land: Anti-vaccination forces in the Torah world – “weighing the science” or stumbling block?Tziviahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11828930310967808828noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-42355492728180969192017-06-05T09:55:54.455-04:002017-06-05T09:55:54.455-04:00Obviously the child who died hours after being vax...Obviously the child who died hours after being vaxxed was allergic to something in the vaccine. It could have just as easily have happened after eating an egg. You will still feed your kids even one has a reaction to peanut butter. You just won't have peanut butter or contaminated products in the house. I'd rather doctors try and figure out if the sibling is allergic to anything in the vaccination before deciding to use it. I don't understand deciding they are bad cause your cousin's, neighbor's, nephew got a fever after an immunization. I can see the nephew not doing any more shots. <br /><br />I'd rather a kid get a cold or ear infection than die of measles or be injured for life due to polio. Sometimes one sibling gets ear infections frequently and the other doesn't. <br /><br />A new study about autism looking at baby teeth of twins where one has it and one doesn't show the different periods of development in the womb and first months of life. There was an increase in some medals and decrease in other medals for the child with autism. People just want the problem identified and feel they have control over it not happening anymore. They took out the offending substance and there was still autism. They stopped vaccinating kids and there are still kids with autism. A higher rate of kids with autism. People thought tomatoes were poison for quite some time too. I think history will have a similar story with vaccines. <br /><br />Most adults got the shots. Most adults who have minor kids making these decisions lived free of quarantines due to measles, polio and mumps. If you go back another generation you will hear the stories and see the statistics. Statistics so high that the risk of injury from the shot is exponentially less than the risk of being hospitalized, injured or dying from the disease it prevents. kmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01791551228094642235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-36542453694293537382017-04-19T14:04:57.152-04:002017-04-19T14:04:57.152-04:00a) I'd be happy to see any reputable study cor...a) I'd be happy to see any reputable study correlating developmental delays with vaccination. <br />b) Anecdotes involving one sibling in a family are interesting, but they're not science.<br />c) I do acknowledge up above, I think, that vaccine injury is a real thing. Oh - maybe in <a href="http://www.mamaland.org/2017/02/confessions-of-mom-who-was-scared-to.html" rel="nofollow">my previous post</a> on this topic.<br />d) Even if there was a correlation, I'd <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/delaying-vaccines-increases-risks-with-no-added-benefits/" rel="nofollow">rather my kid had a cold than measles</a>. (It's a funny name, but a deadly disease.)<br />e) There is a forum for public debate - it's called "peer-reviewed scholarly publications." Show me one convincing article that meets that criterion suggesting that overall, vaccines are not a good thing. Please. (Hint: there are none.)Tziviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828930310967808828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-3510767951188948012017-04-19T12:15:58.585-04:002017-04-19T12:15:58.585-04:00I would challenge any MD, PhD or Rabbi to a CIVIL ...I would challenge any MD, PhD or Rabbi to a CIVIL public debate.<br />Moishe Kahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317800369317562915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-34714695030178161422017-04-19T00:52:44.412-04:002017-04-19T00:52:44.412-04:00Are you telling me that 3 Billion paid to vax inju...Are you telling me that 3 Billion paid to vax injuries is just FREE giveaway $Moishe Kahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317800369317562915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-89799725698268893642017-04-18T21:12:25.677-04:002017-04-18T21:12:25.677-04:00When a mother vaccinated on twin but not the other...When a mother vaccinated on twin but not the other , & the vaxxed one became sick within hours of the vax & never recovered . <br /><br />Or the hundreds of thousands of parents Who vaxxed some of their kids but did not vax the others ( including myself). <br /><br />How do you explain the fact that the unvaxed kids reached development milestones way before their vaxxed siblings. & hardly ever had the colds & ear infections their vaxed sibling were constantly suffering from.Moishe Kahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317800369317562915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-7813559043033949702017-04-13T14:53:21.496-04:002017-04-13T14:53:21.496-04:00Moishe:
Thanks for stopping by! I wish I believe...Moishe:<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by! I wish I believed that you'd change your mind based on evidence. However, here's one response from a science and medicine site:<br /><br />This, of course, is an irrelevant argument, a diversionary red herring, if you will. It doesn’t matter what the equivalent dose of childhood vaccines would be to an adult; childhood vaccines aren’t designed for adults, but for children, and adult vaccines are designed for adults. Vaccines don’t work by being distributed through the bloodstream like a drug. They work by provoking an immune response, usually locally where they are injected. Some vaccines do require a larger dose in older adults because immune response can weaken with age. Thus, the “appeal to dose” is a fallacy, a rhetorical gambit; it’s not scientifically supported. It’s basically a variant of Jock Doubleday’s vaccine challenge.<br /><br />(that's from <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/12/07/a-manual-of-spectacularly-bad-antivaccine-arguments/" rel="nofollow">this site</a>)<br /><br />I'm not exactly sure what you mean by comparing kids within the same family. The non-vaccinated children may not catch the childhood diseases the others are vaccinated against because a) the diseases are rare and b) their siblings are immune so they won't be bringing them home. That doesn't exactly debunk anything - let alone everything. :-)<br /><br />Chag sameach!<br />TziviaTziviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828930310967808828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21153604.post-30888731621470793892017-04-13T14:15:49.467-04:002017-04-13T14:15:49.467-04:00If only the pro-vaxers would take the vaccines the...If only the pro-vaxers would take the vaccines they give the innocent babies, @ a weight adjusted dose the would begin thinking.<br /><br />If you Compare vaxed vs healthy kids kids in the same family, you debunk all medi-sin myths. Moishe Kahanhttp://enrichedparenting.orgnoreply@blogger.com